A Podcast You’ll Love


I found a way to motivate myself to cook dinner –listening to the Phil Vischer podcast.

Coming from deep but dorky conversations with my college friends, I feel a bit lost amid all this small talk as a newbie to the neighborhood. Phil’s roundtable discussions about the ups and downs and ins and outs of evangelical Christianity are filling in that gap. Phil invites personable and humorous personalities to talk about Christianity in refreshing ways. It feels just like the late night talks of my college days!

Erich and I find ourselves laughing at their goofy jokes and fist-bumping their honest desire to know God and critique the ways we’ve been told to find him. We’ll turn on an episode or two while whipping up dinner or lounging around on a Sunday afternoon.

I’ve never been “into” podcasts, but I can’t stop listening to this one! These are my favorite episodes so far:

“Saving the Bible with Glenn Paauw” (just read the Bible, and read it in conversation with other traditions — yay, ecumenicalism!)

“Returning to Hell with Preston Sprinkle” and “Talking about Hell! with John Walton” (fun facts about what we do and don’t know about what the Bible says about hell — fundamentalism got it really, really wrong)

“Pastors & Booze, Women & Work” (a great egalitarian conversation on, well, women and work)

What podcasts do you listen to?

9 thoughts on “A Podcast You’ll Love

  1. Daniel Abbott

    I found something very interesting, and I wanted to show it to you, not tell you. So I am going to start by asking you a few questions.

    Of these two Old Testament books: Daniel and Job; which predates the other? When? And why do you think that?

    An example would be: Daniel circa 164 B.C.E., because the accuracy of the 2,300 evening-mornings of desecration of the temple. Daniel 8.13-14

    Or: Daniel circa 538 B.C.E the first year of Persian rule. Daniel 11.1

    Or: Job circa 1550 B.C.E. the primitive Semitic language, significantly more primitive than the language used to craft Genesis. Rabbinic ascribed authorship of Moses.

    Or: Job circa 332 B.C.E. Hellenistic references. Job 37-39


  2. Daniel Abbott

    I have heard that position posited by several people, who have a great deal more learning in that area than I do.

    Which is, probably why I was blindsided by John Walton’s response to the question of the Israelite belief in the resurrection of the dead by citing Daniel 12:13.

    Because my immediate thought was of Job 19:25-27

    “I know that my redeemer lives,
    and that in the end he will stand on the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed,
    yet in my flesh I will see God; I myself will see him
    with my own eyes—I, and not another.
    How my heart yearns within me!”

    Which I have always, personally, thought was a reference to the resurrection of the dead. And sort of a “proof” that the resurrection of the dead was an ancient belief, rather than a modern understanding of ancient texts.

    I think it is very interesting. Do you, as well? Or is it just me?


    • Bailey Steger

      I’ve never given much thought to it. It’s not something I’ve noticed, and I’m not well-versed in OT beliefs on resurrection. It would be interesting to see if the Jews interpreted that verse as pertaining to the resurrection!


      • Daniel Abbott

        Obviously, the Sadducees didn’t. Mark 12:18

        The Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead. Acts 23:6

        It would be a mistake to make the assertion that all Jews had “this” or “that” interpretation of either, Job 19:25-27 or Daniel 12:13.

        But I wonder why? Why would you never think about the Isrealites’ belief in the resurrection?


      • Daniel Abbott

        Technically, the Greek term translated as “sect” regarding Sadducees and Herodians is the same term translated as “heresy” in the New Testament epistles. So it might be a stretch to say Sadducee beliefs weren’t heretical. However, it would be whatever the New Testament authors meant by the term, rather than necessarily what we mean by heresy, today. In fact, our understanding of heresy is heavily influenced by what New Testament authors wrote concerning it.

        As to why I wonder why, is that I can remember discussing when did people start believing in the resurrection or when was the resurrection of the dead divinely revealed with a couple of classmates back in second grade. So it, obviously, must be a basic Christian concept.

        We came to the conclusion that it was after the flood, but before Israel went to Egypt. Israel and Joseph, both, asked to be buried in the promised land. If it were not for a belief in the resurrection, why would it matter where their bodies lay?

        Of course, it is an observation more to my own internal thoughts, than any kind of question to you.

        Later, when I learned of the RCC belief regarding the sanctity of the dead, it matched the Hebrew Levitical instruction for care of the dead. The RCC bases their behavior on the resurrection belief. What was the Hebrew basis for the same behavior?


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